I was joined by Tony Robbins, an American author, speaker, and philanthropist, and Peter Diamandis, a Greek-American engineer, physician, entrepreneur, and author to talk about their new book, Life Force: How New Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine Can Transform the Quality of Your Life & Those You Love!
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In this episode, I was joined by Tony Robbins, an American author, speaker, and philanthropist, and Peter Diamandis, a Greek-American engineer, physician, entrepreneur, and author to talk about their new book, Life Force: How New Breakthroughs in Precision Medicine Can Transform the Quality of Your Life & Those You Love!
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James Altucher 0:01
This isn't your average business podcast. And he's not your average host. This is the James Altucher Show. Today on the James Altucher show, Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis, I mean, I almost don't have to give more of an intro. He has written books about all the future technologies that we need to be aware of that are going to just drastically change life as we know it. And it's just around the corner, they've teamed up, they wrote a book called life force. As you know, I'm very much interested in peak performance. And this book Life Force is not like some woowoo kind of book it they research, all the technologies, everything you need to enhance every area of your life, from aging, to your physical health, to your brain, health, everything, not only technologies, but what are the specific lifestyle changes, they thoroughly researched. Both of them are leaders in this type of stuff, I'm glad to see they've teamed up the book is life force. This book changed my life and hopefully, listening to this podcast will change yours.
So every time either of you guys write a book, I say, Okay, this is the book that's gonna change my life. But now you teamed up, which is unfair for the rest of the world. He wrote the book that really will like ever, it's gonna i, okay, here's an example, I have that apo e4 gene that gives you a higher increased risk of Alzheimer's. And you give like 27 Different cure, I can't even keep up with all this technology to talk about here to cure Alzheimer's, heart disease, strokes, all the things that cause aging, unhappiness, whatever. But let's just start with the beginning of this. It sounds like the the the impetus on peterside Was that, Peter, you've been constantly researching exponentially growing technologies. And that's interface well with, you know, increasing quantity of life and quality of life. And Tony, you had not only decades helping people, but you had real world experiences where you needed help. And you started using some of these technologies to, you know, fix rotator cuffs and other pain and make you smarter. And let's just, let's, I want to start with actually the very beginning, I keep hearing about stem cells, and all its benefits. Tell me the story there.
Tony Robbins 2:27
Okay. Well, Jim, first of all, thanks for having us on again. Good to see you. It started out like you know, I've been obsessed like Peter, both of us for finding ways to increase the quality of people's lives. But what made this one push over the edge for me was an injury that was supposed to end my career, at least according to the doctors, I spoke to you. I was being an idiot. I was going down the side of the mountain in Sun Valley snowboarding, trying to keep up with a 22 year old professional snowboarder, and clearly, I was not a professional, and he could do things I could not do. And I had an accident I thought literally thought I broke my neck I like came conscious. Fortunately, all I've done but it was still severe was tore my rotator cuffs pretty severely. And so you know, what do you do? You go to your doctor and what do they tell you? They say surgery, surgery, surgery, and so on. I asked him well, what about stem cells? Because you know, you know, I work with some of the greatest athletes of all time and a variety of subjects. Christianna, Rinaldo was supposed to be out for three months did stem cells and was ready to go in two and a half, three weeks? So no, no What work for you. It's too complex. It's not gonna happen. You know, this nature. And the last doctor looked at me directly after telling me I changed life, I need to go to him for that reason. He's just happy to have been a client, I guess. And he changed my life. He made me all this money, you saved my marriage. And he goes, now I have to be your doctor. His whole tone changed. He said, Let me show you your spine. Life. As you notice over he literally said that. So you clearly didn't go to my communication seminar. That's pretty clear, right? I tried to joke around it. He was not joking. He said, let me just show you this one good hit. He said, No more snowboarding, no jumping, no running one good hit, you might not be able to walk again. And you know, somebody hits you in the gut when you're ready for it different. But I gotta tell you, I'm usually pretty strong person. But it took me a few hours to get my head together. And I was like, okay, either there's always a solution, or at least you got to believe that if you're ever going to find a solution. So when I call my buddy Peter the genius, right? It's like I said, Peter, you know, people don't know. And Peter is not only a rocket scientist and a genius in business, but he's got an MD from Harvard. And I said, Listen, who should I talk to you to get the real scoop on stem cells? Because everybody gives you a different point of view. And Peter, want you to tell him what happened and tell him a little bit about what you've been doing along the way here first before I tell that story?
Peter Diamandis 4:29
Yeah, yeah, Tony it and I love that this story brought us even closer together. And the result is this book, which hopefully will, will help millions. I mean, I've been passionate about Grand Challenge is passionate about how we use exponential technologies from AI and 3d printing to Vedic biology to sort of solve huge problems is about eight, nine years ago, I became enamored with the idea of longevity more than longevity health span, what are the technologies that can allow us to live longer Enough, you know, to intercept technologies coming in 20 or 30 or 40 years. And one of those is stem cells. And I had partnered with a dear friend, one of our, one of our writers, co authors partners in this book Bob Hariri to start a stem cell company called cellularity. That takes placental derived stem cells, and uses those cells as medicine.
James Altucher 5:24
Can I interrupt for a second, just to explain so placenta derived stem cells as opposed to any stem cells? Because it's like a, it's like the placenta is sort of before the programming takes place. These are stem cells software.
Peter Diamandis 5:37
Yeah, the placenta is a 3d printer that manufactures the baby, so to speak, all of the cells that go into the baby come from the placenta. And historically, we've thrown it away after, you know, after the birth, but it's so rich into the original bootdisk, the original software. Long story short, I said, Tony, you guys speak to Bob Harari, my, you know, the my co founder and the CEO and chairman of cellularity. And, and he'll tell you what to do.
Tony Robbins 6:06
Which by the way, James is like saying, I want to learn about basketball. Let me introduce you, my friend, LeBron James made me you know, 28 years ago, 38 years ago, he did those original studies, you've heard about where they gave old rats, young rats blood and their skin got stronger, the hair got darker, their muscles got, they literally got younger, and vice versa, which started that whole thing in Silicon Valley about, you know, young blood, but really became the real discovery for stem cells. But Bob said to me, said, Look, Tony, you know, if you want to do your elbow or an ankle, or maybe your wrist or something, you know, your own stem cells might work. They're called autologous, your own. It's not going to work for you, because you've got something much more intense. And he said, you know, your stem cells drop off the plant and off the cliff, around 4045 years old. And I was 53 of the time. So he said, you need the force of life, your life force, he said, You need four day old stem cells. And I try to clarify that I don't want you know, I don't want fetal cells under any circumstances. No, you don't want those. And that's not what I'm suggesting. And he was one of the first people now when you have a pregnancy, and usually they ask you do you want to keep the cord. That was Bob's initiation that came from Bible book, according the placenta. So he told me where to go. And I went down to three days of treatment, which was just 20 minutes a day of an IV with this massive number of stem cells, real fresh, 40 old stem cells, and a shot. The first day, I just felt relaxed and tired a little bit. The second day, I had a cytokine response, I knew what it was, I wasn't scared, you know, shaking, freezing a little bit for about 2030 minutes. But the reaction was so strong, that great reaction in my body, I went to sleep, I woke up the next day, and you know, this guy had told me, you know, I don't care what you do, you're not going to be your spinal stenosis doesn't go away. Well, I woke up next day, now there was my shoulder perfect. And we had the MRI, it's perfect. But with no surgery without four to six months of recovery, which is what they told me was gonna take right without having to worry. But I stood up for the first time without pain on my spine and 14 years. So I became obsessed. I was like, I'm gonna find the best thing stem cells. And then what began to happen as I saw, it's not just stem cells. There's so many other tools. Today, we're in a revolution of regenerative and precision medicine. And then Peter was going to go to the Vatican where they believe or not, every two years, they have this regenerative medicine conference that the Pope actually hosts because he believes it's such a breakthrough. That's how far regenitive medicine has come. And then they asked me if I would, I was going to go Peter, perhaps still, but they asked me if I do the cleanup, speaking at the very end the last day, as well, I want to attend all these classes. So with, you know, to every class there and met, some of the greatest scientists in the world met dozens of people that were in a position where they were told there was no solution or sent home to die with certain types of cancers. And they met, let's say Carl Joon and they had no car T cells. And here they are six years later, totally healthy. And I met Jack Nicklaus, the greatest golfer of all time, he was in so much pain standing, he couldn't stand for more than 10 minutes at a time, he gave us an endorsement for the book, by the way. And he was told he had to have spinal fusion, which is horrible, and usually only works less than half the time. And you're not, you're not left with your full capacity. Instead, he did stem cells, and now he's 82 years old plays golf and tennis, and he's not a pain. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do what I do with money master the game, you know what I did, I went and interviewed the very best on Earth, and tried to extract the complex things make them simple and actionable. And I said, I'm instead of going to 50 of the best financial people, I want to go 150 plus of Nobel laureate scientists, the best medical doctors out there. And let's put this together and show people what's available, what they can do to increase their energy and strength and vitality right now, simple things. What's some new technology? How do we prevent the challenges with some cool diagnostics? And if they do have a disease, like you described, or they have, let's say, you know, they have a genome that gives them concern. You'll show them it's the epigenome that matters and show them what the latest treatments are. So they have some other options. And that's those began and said, I want to just continue you know, when I met you, that first book, money master the game, I decided, after meeting all these billionaires, I saw that they'd cut foods As you know, it's called the SNAP program now, I $6 billion. Every family needs food, but I have to give up a week's worth of food. I was like, You know what I don't my previous three books I gave 100% of the money away. I'm going to do it here too. I got Peter called him and said, Will you be my co author along with this along with Bob, and we're donating all mouse, we're feeding 20 million more meals, I'm up to 850 million meals to give you an idea in seven years, I said feed a billion. And now in addition, that the balance we've now donated also to some of the best and Alzheimer's cancer, our disease and anti aging research. So we're very excited about the impact.
James Altucher 10:32
And you know, there's so many different technologies you talk about in this book, and so many different conditions that they treat or lifestyle ways you lifestyles that you can enhance. But I want to, I want to be a skeptic for a second because I keep hearing about all these things like let's use stem cells. In example, he said 20 years ago or 30 years ago, Dr. Hariri did these studies that show if you put young stem cells and old mice, they become younger, and vice versa? Okay, I keep hearing about these things, you got the infusion of stem cells? How do people have access to this kind of thing?
Peter Diamandis 11:06
So James, listen, the the challenge is that traditional medical care today is like 22 years behind. I mean, it's a ridiculous amount of time from when breakthroughs occur when they're available in your doctor's office. And the healthcare industry here in the United States, and most of the world is really perverted and backwards, right. It's only after you've gotten sick with a stage three or stage four cancer where your chances the probabilities of a cure, it's like five or 10%, that you end up seeking help we're working we would talk about in this book is really the breakthroughs coming out that are either in phase one, phase two, phase three clinical trials, right in terms of safety, and efficacy and efficacy at scale. But the stuff that's been approved recently, in every one of these disease courses, it's a big book. And as people read it, you know, you can read the first segment of the book, get an overview what the technologies are, and then pick specific ones if it's inflammation, or diabetes, or cancer or heart disease. And our intention here has been is to you, people hope there's so much happening this decade, you know, the decade ahead, where we're combining CRISPR, and gene therapy and AI and new materials is, is an extraordinary period that I think no one truly has a grasp at how fast this field is improving. And I think that the medical system today unfortunately, makes most of its money by maintaining chronic disease instead of curing it. But we're finally getting the tools. And we can talk about CRISPR and gene therapy where we can stop talking about treating a disease, and finally talk about actually curing it irreversibly.
James Altucher 12:54
I like the idea that you treat similar to David Sinclair and lifespan and you discuss him extensively in the book, you treat aging as a disease, which is I think, is very important. But But again, like let's say, everything seems like a magic bullet like you discuss Yamanaka factors for anti aging, you just just na d plus boosters, stem cells, gene therapy, where do I start? Let's say, I don't have anything, I just want to improve my quality of life, I want to improve my energy, I want to improve my brain. I want to set the stage to live longer with higher quality of life. Where do I start? What should I do?
Tony Robbins 13:28
The first place you want to start is just knowing where you really are you think about it, if you have a map and you know where you want to go, but you don't know where you are, you're going to chart a course that doesn't work. And so there's some amazing tools right now that can take away your fear, and more importantly, show you where we really aren't. Let's start on the diagnostic side. There's all kinds of simple things, you do lifestyle things that will show you their cost, nothing that you can make a change on. And then there's tools like we've talked about stem cells, etc. But let's start at the base there, you know, what are the two biggies that everybody's afraid about? You know, Alzheimer's would be the third one, but first for most people is cancer and heart disease. So as Peter mentioned, you know, there's 100,000 person study done by Cancer Society. And they found that if they find the cancer at stage three or four, you have an 80% chance of dying, I prefer the 20% chance of living. But their point is, it's much harder to turn around. And they're right. If you get at stage one or two. Now you're in a place where 80 To 99.9% chance that you're going to live but why do we have so many problems? We have a limited number of cancers we test for the ones that usually kill us or the ones we don't test for. So mammograms, right, you know, you know, colonoscopies, but on the other side, there's all these other diseases that we catch too late. So one of the great things in this book as you you go on a journey while you're learning these tools, we take into journey these heroes, these people that have spent 20 or 35 years, giving their blood and guts to do something everybody said was impossible and why they do it almost to a man or a woman. They did it because they lost a husband or a wife or a son or a daughter or someone they love. So for example, there's a new test in the last six months called Grail. It was created by a guy named Jeff Hoover was originally at Google, he lost his lost his wife, it was clear that if they would have diagnosed it earlier, she would have made it it was a horrific experience. And he decided the best way to honor it was to find the answer. And he found these technologies. So now there's a test, a simple blood test, that will find up to 50 different cancers, even before the symptoms are there. Let me show you why that's valuable that an MRI which goes past the blood brain barrier, you know, where you stand on one of the biggest issues out there and your life, you want to catch it when it's little, as we've already described. So we had a man who came to one of our centers, Phantom center, and his wife had pushed him and he's like, I've already gone to the doctor, I'd done my physical, I did my blood and urine analysis. But we gave the Grail test to him. And guess what? Bladder cancer, just the beginnings of it. So it's a 30 minute outpatient process, and he's cancer free, versus not learning until it was too late.
James Altucher 15:49
But like, if I go to the Mayo Clinic, why don't they tell me get this test? Or if I go to my doctor, how come? They don't tell me about
Tony Robbins 15:55
Peter, just talk? Well, let me give you the first reason. According to to Harvard 2017. Study the half life of medical education. What do you think it is? Meaning why
James Altucher 16:04
No, no, but but but it surprised me the answer,
Tony Robbins 16:07
yeah. 18 To 24 months, they said in 2017. They said by 2022. Now it'd be 73 days. So who educates the doctor? The pharmaceutical salesman? How do you think we got an opioid crisis? Here's this, this doctor who wants to help the people he loves and cares for his patients. totally sincere. He's told this is the greatest approach. And no, it's not addictive. And now people are addicted and dying. Imagine, well, Dr. Fields, they're out there saving everybody, they don't have time to go stream to see who's throwing them in. So most people don't see these. But that's why it's like anything else, you go to the financial person, most people are not going to fiduciary and speak your language. And you know, they're going to get screwed, they're going to get sold. What makes the most money for the corporation, the corporation is not bad people, they're enriching their shareholders. So there's a system that does not necessarily bring things at the speed you want. But we're at a tipping point right now, just like you know, technology, once you know, every 18 months, we're doubling in power and having a cost. We're at that point right now with these different tools. Let me give you another one. Heart disease. So number one, killer men and women, what's the most people do a CT scan, usually after they have severe symptoms, right. And a CT scan, if you've ever looked at one yourself, even a professional has a hard time reading it they're looking to see yet do you have this plaque in your body, but there's two different types of plaques, there's calcified plaque, which is hard and in the means you're healthy, you healed. And then there's a soft plaque. That's the Widowmaker that can break off at any time and give you a stroke or heart attack. Well, you know, one day, you know, we have a partner named Dr. Bill cap on built 12 hospitals himself decided to sell the hospitals because he's tired of sick care. And he his entire life is committed now to precision medicine, and regenerative medicine. So he calls us up. And Peter knows he's a very understated guy. This guy doesn't overstate anything. I talk 100 miles a minute. But you know, Bill talks more like this. He goes, Tony, um, I have to tell you, there's this new breakthrough. And he said, it's, I almost say that it's one of the biggest breakthroughs that we've seen in cardiology in 10 years. Well, what is it? Anyway, this new test called a CCTA test takes a normal CT test and uses AI, it opens up your arteries digitally searches through and finds out, is this soft plaque? Or is it calcified? Where is it how much is it gives you a score, it can predict the artifact up to five years in advance, but more importantly, tells you what to do to get rid of it. So I'm with my father in law, who just turned 80. And I love him to death picture a guy that had his own business self educated in the lumber business. But now he's 80 years old, everybody around him says, you know, the inevitable is coming. You got to arrange your affairs put together your will. And over the last two or three years, I've seen his energy, just dive. So he's at my house when I got this phone call. So I said listen, I'm going to go two days from now. You're going to still be here. Why don't you come with me? We're both old enough. We're gonna have some soft plaques. But they're going to show us what it is, where it is and what to do. So my father lost his great. We go to our life center. And sure enough, my father in law, he's clean as a whistle. I mean, like, I'm much better than I was five years ago. I'm doing great. But I mean, he has nothing, nothing. I mean, he's in phenomenal shape. His whole mindset changes a watch. We also have like, you know, we work with the Pittsburgh Steelers, we have a center in Pittsburgh, the entire team peak performance repair the whole nine yards. So there's a technique called relief where it's brand new void surgery. It allows you to scan with ultrasound, your body see where the connective tissue is stopping circulation or flow or nerves get trapped. So I had this ankle for 1516 years. I couldn't touch it. If a massage person came by it was like somebody shot electricity through me Don't touch it. They went through in five minutes. So exactly the problem was open it up with this fluid like amnio fluid and all of a sudden the nerve pop into place I can smack the hell out of it's been two years no problem whatsoever. So I said pops that he's got what makes you old is feeling old, his pain and lack of movement, and he's not moving because he's got this hip problem. So we just found his heart's perfect, right, he's in great shape. So I said, Dad, while you're here want to let him look a tree up, they scan and find two spots that are creating the problem. They treat him in a half hour. About 30 minutes later, he's walking smooth as silk. So we get on the plane and think of this James, he sits there crossing his arms crossed and goes, you know, Tony, sometimes people talk about living 110 120. That's Peter. And he goes, I don't know if I believe you're 50. Peter is he's committed to that. It was I don't know if I believe that yet. But my heart's perfect. I'm walking perfect. He goes, I can live another 20 years. He said, you've only been married to my daughter 22 years. And like his entire perspective and personas change. So these tools are not airy fairy. They're amazing. And not knowing this ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is pain. Ignorance is poverty. Ignorance is disease, ignorance is death. So we really would start there, then you start saying, Okay, what I want to do that's simple lifestyle. And if I want to optimize, what are some of the tools that can take me to the next level there?
James Altucher 21:00
So yeah, so let's talk about optimization. So, so clearly, there are these technologies out there that if you know, the right places to go, and now if people read this book, they'll know the right places to go. And we'll, we'll talk more about that in a second. But let's talk about optimization, someone's 5040 30, they want to keep their youthful energy, they want to optimize their brain, they want to just in general, enhance their life.
Peter Diamandis 21:23
There are four basics here that everybody needs to understand. The first is we need sleep, we have heroes in the book, we tell their stories, one of the heroes of sleep is Dr. Matt Walker, who is a professor at Berkeley. And the realization is that eight hours of sleep is not you know, something that you should strive for, you need it, we need eight hours of sleep, if we didn't need it hours, evolution would have taken that need a way right, you can imagine if a certain population of humans can go on five or six hours, they'd have three hours more to go hunt or find their mates, we need eight hours of sleep. But
James Altucher 21:59
I needed those extra three hours to find a mate. But that's
Peter Diamandis 22:04
but their tricks or their tricks or trades that you can do like cooling down the temperature of the room is 64 or 65 degrees, using a cooling blanket and eyemask. Getting to sleep at a regular time not watching TV before you go. Sleep is fundamental.
Tony Robbins 22:17
I was one of those guys. And Peter was at one stage as well. And Peter got me to to really study Dr. Walker's work I was working on the sleep chapter at 615 had to be up at 930. So I knew something was wrong, right. But I remember, you know, when I'm talking with him, he shared something I think your listeners viewers would find important. He said, Tony, I know you're not convinced. 45 hours, you seem to be okay. But he said it is having a long term impact on you. And he said, I'll tell you how we know we got a 1.6 billion persons study. I said that's impossible. He said no, we didn't have to organize it. It's called 70 countries that do daylight savings time. And he said, Here's what we found statistically across those countries, when we spring forward, just lose one hour of sleep for the next three days. And those countries on average heart attacks increased 24%. When we drop back and just get one more hour in the fall, heart attacks dropped 21% on average across the board. And he even does it across showing you different aspects like traffic problems and accidents. But he also showed me Amanda gets 45 hours of sleep four to five will usually have testosterone levels at a level that someone 10 years older than they are. And so I started looking at these things. And so now I focus on getting those eight hours. I don't always get them I'll be honest. But I have a monitor to my sleep. I see how much deep sleep I have. I found a huge difference. So it sounds so basic, but affects your hormones. It affects the way you think it affects your capacity to have all your organs work. I just want to interject because sometimes people hear sleeping thing. Nothing I know I did. That's why I want to throw that in.
James Altucher 23:43
But also you mentioned some products and stuff that helps people you mentioned new calm in the book, you mentioned all these
Peter Diamandis 23:51
books. The book is intended to be an on ramp to help people you know, have at least four or five different approaches to each of these areas. Let's go into diet and diet, you know, medicine, lots of medicines, but food is medicine is so critically important. What do you eat? Right? And it depends on your genetics. You might actually be great as a vegan or for me Mediterranean diet, but its whole plant. It's maximizing the amount of veggies I can pull in and it's minimizing sugar. The fundamental truth is sugar is a poison. It causes neuro inflammation and accelerates Alzheimer's. It is the food that feeds cancer. And ultimately it also wouldn't like oscillates cholesterol. That's what makes it sticky on the side of your core, your carotid arteries, your coronary arteries and and so minimizing sugar is one of the key things that everyone needs to know and listen I'm not
James Altucher 24:47
sugar in fruit.
Peter Diamandis 24:50
Fructose is you know, is better than eating processed. You know pure glucose and sugary healthy cereals for For breakfast, it's not bad. But again, even too much fructose is not good for you. So you know, sugary drinks,
Tony Robbins 25:07
you know, here's a quick hack for you to add to that. People get overwhelmed. They think I got to try and lose all this way. But the lancet did a study where people just cut 300 calories a day from what they normally it's, it's like one bagel or one Starbucks Starbucks, there's usually more than that, right? In two years, on average, they lost 16 pounds, their blood pressure dropped their blood sugar normalize. So there's some little things you can do. And that's we try to people get him start with little things, you start feeling better, you want to do more things, I don't want to wrap and I just want to make sure people know you don't, you don't have to change everything to change your whole life.
Peter Diamandis 25:38
And then for me, intermittent fasting helps a lot, right. So I will typically eat lunch at about 130, dinner at 630. And then I'll fast the next day. And I don't know how you feel about this. And Tony, we've talked about this before that when I fast, I have an incredible amount of energy, right? It's when I eat a heavy you know, on Thanksgiving Day when you're eating a heavy meal, all the blood going to your digestive system, and it's slowing you down and making you sleepy. So intermittent fasting is about doing two things, one, keeping your energy levels high. And the second by stressing the body. It drives a number of the call it the genetics of longevity, the activating the seventh or to end genes out there. And we talked about this length in the book, there's fasting mimicking diets that folks like Dr. Valter Longo have created, there's ways to get around the hunger. One of them is you know, drinking two, three liters of water per day. This is something that's so critically important that people forget about.
James Altucher 26:43
And you know, you also talk about in terms of the sirtuins you talk about drugs are supplements that also mimic or fool the body into thinking it's passing these na d plus boosters and things like that.
Tony Robbins 26:57
James, let me let me see if I can give you just a two second download, I'm sure you know, but so your your listeners do and your viewers do. So first thing is to remember that your DNA is not your destiny, doctors all not all doctors but most scientists now agree this they know what to think about is those 3.2 letters your mom and dad sets up your gene sets up the plan. But that plan, what matters is what genes get activated, turned on or off at what time right. So that's your epigenome that does that the metaphor we tried to tell people is think of a piano as your DNA or your genome, think of the epigenome as the piano player. But your epigenome is powerfully influenced by your diet, your exercise, your sleep, the amount of exposure to radiation to chemicals, etc. While the epigenome, as you mentioned, is affected by seven master genes. And this is something that Dr. Sinclair really developed the expertise around. These seven master genes are called sirtuins. And all their job is is only this, these important two things that can be competing one, they make sure we turn on and off the genes at the right time, they influence your epigenome, too, they cut down your inflammation, which we all know is the basis of much much of disease. Three, this may be the most important thing. They help you to convert those foods into my in the mitochondria to energy, they're critical for that that's the source of energy in every cell in your body. But they also have a competing thing they do, it's not so much of a problem with your younger is when you're older. And that competing thing is they clean up your DNA, the sirtuins meaning as you get older accumulation, your 20 Not so much 40 A lot more 60 a lot more of radiation exposure chemicals as they go clean it up so that everything's working well. But the sirtuins need a source of fuel that you mentioned, it's called an ad. And without that any D you're in trouble with any D drops off the cliff at 50. It starts dropping off in your late 40s. And so now you don't have enough fuel. So what happens? Now it has to choose am I going to clean up your DNA? Am I going to make sure you have enough energy and so it splits it and you get older and weaker as this occurs? Now, ne D which people have heard about needs a precursor called mn it'll be the last fancy word of use. And no man, as I'm sure you know, is what makes all this possible. It's the precursor. Well, when you lose 50% of your NTD and you're in a man, you no longer are going to think of it like Bob Hurley describes it this way. He says like the magic of a mansion, and you have this young staff and everything breaks down, they fix it so it all looks perfect. And then you get older and older and senile and then you don't have enough resources and everything breaks down in your mansion turns into a disaster. Well, that's aging. But here's what's really cool. If you take n mn first of all, you got to be careful. Peter knows we did with David we looked at I think it was six companies with Mnn somewhere like $30 a month, some $120 a month to see how much no man was really there. Not one of the six companies had any internet. There was like I went to the lab guy and it's like, how is this possible? Are these people thieves? A lot of it comes from China. They said well, some are thieves but he said it's more likely it breaks down and about 30 to 45 days. So by the time you get it, you're getting nothing. It's inert. So David has developed his own forms of m&m that he uses. But here's the coolest breakthrough. When you give a mouse, who's an old mouse, let's say equivalent of a seven year old person is about a 20 month old mouse. If you put them on a treadmill, the most they can run is about a quarter of a kilometer. And then they collapse. A young mouse, strong mouse can run four times that a full kilometer. When they give nnn. For four days traditional element, it's absorbed only about 30%. For for for 14 days, they now run two to three kilometers two to 300%, more than the strongest mice. So then the question becomes, yeah, but do my studies work with humans sometimes, sometimes not. So here's what's cool. There's a man named Ed shoe lock in a group called Metro biotech that is put together about 100 of some of the greatest minds, many of which that we interviewed here that actually work with him on some of these projects. And they have created a synthetic form of Nnn, that doesn't break down and more importantly, seems to have absorption in the three to 400% range. And so here's what they've done. It's really outstanding. No one knew about this till a few weeks ago, Peter, and I knew an investor in the company. So we know the details. I can't tell you, but what I can tell us what's been public. For two years, they've been doing studies with our special forces, he's the strongest human beings in the world to give men and women. And for two years, they studied the efficacy, the safety and the efficacy. So it's not been released yet. But one of the commanders got so excited, he talked to a reporter. And he said, Here's all I can tell you what we saw, in my studies, we're seeing the same level of explosive increase in endurance, we're seeing increase in muscle mass from the same stimulus, the same exercise. But most importantly, we're seeing explosion in cognitive capacity, which the military, your special forces, when you're exhausted, it's your ability to keep your head straight, that matters the most. So they're now doing studies on theirs. I think it's in stage three. Now, I want to hospital on COVID. Because COVID is you know, steals from the energy in your mitochondria. So they have both for preventing it and also for long term COVID. They have one on kidneys. And then of this one. So the bottom line is, this is not a nutraceutical, this is going to go through FDA, they've done so much safety, they're on a parallel track, they believe in somewhere between 18 to 24 months this will be available. So imagine you could take an actual pill simple pill, it's made up of something natural in your own body, that would make you turn on or off the right genes, make use produce your inflammation, give more power to your mitochondria, and clean up your DNA. So in the book, we show you a new right now, but also what's coming in the next 12 to 36 months, not 10 or 15 years from now, right now.
James Altucher 32:39
So these are like super NID boosters, right?
Tony Robbins 32:43
It's exact. It's its own molecule. It's called MIB 66.
Peter Diamandis 32:46
Now, that Tony is not excited about this stuff at all.
James Altucher 32:50
I want to take this right now how come I can't take this right now show
Tony Robbins 32:53
me both baby.
Peter Diamandis 33:09
So we hit sleep, we hit diet, we're hitting supplements over Europe. We'll talk about mindset a little bit, which is Tony's to closing chapters. The other thing that's critically important for people is what I call in the category of not dying from something stupid in the interim. And and this is the challenge again, you talked about it before right now the medical system is antiquated. And people actually don't want to know and don't go until something is off. And it's you know, then you're looking retrospectively. So we ended up building a company called fountain life. And I just went yesterday I was in in Naples we have five facilities in the US and in New York and Pittsburgh, a couple in Florida. We're opening up Dallas, and then soon a few other locations. And I go for five hours in in those five hours. I'm digitized full body MRI, brain brain vasculature, a grail test, full blood workup, genomic workup, gut workup, a DEXA scan, all of this data, 150 gigabytes of data. And this goes into fountain lives AI system and it evaluates it. Now here are the numbers which are pretty dramatic from the last, you know, a couple of 1000 patients. Statistically 2% of people going through the program have a cancer they don't know about right. So, you know, two out of 100 people in the room. Two and a half percent have an aneurysm they don't know about. And then if you add up all the other things that are, you know, immediately need to be dealt with that are critical, life threatening. It's 14.4% We're all optimists. We don't actually know what's going on inside our body until you end up in the hospital with a pain in your side and the doctor says I hate to tell you but It didn't happen that morning. So I go every year and get my upload. And when I don't go, I feel naked. It's like, you know what's going on what's going on, something's gonna hit me eventually. And I'm going to say fantastic because I'm going to attack it. And people who say, I don't want to know, like bullshit, of course, you want to know, because you can do something about it now more than ever. And so this is sort of the future of medicine. Now, it's expensive today. But we built something that we talked about just lightly in the book, which I'm excited about, because it's, you know, in my last book, James, I talked about the future of industries. And one of the things I said is, you know, the insurance industry is, is backwards, right, when you, when you buy fire insurance, it pays you after your house burns down when you buy, you know, life insurance and pays you after you're dead. So we built something called fountain health, and it's for companies right now will eventually go to consumers. But when the company buys found a health insurance for its employees, for the rest, same monthly payments, you're getting, the employees get all of this diagnostic work, the full body MRI, the Grail cancer, liquid biopsy, the, you know, the AI coronary CT, why? Because we've flipped the model to say we're gonna spend the money early, to keep you healthy to prevent you from having super expensive procedures down the line. And just proud about that, right. That's the vision of what when to create and reinvent the topple this healthcare industry, which is, which is extraordinary, and how bad it is.
Tony Robbins 36:37
There's also the things that you can do that are right now will give you more energy if you just know, and they're not expensive. So for example, you know, a metals test. I didn't know it, but I when I was 54 years old, suddenly I'd be on stage and couldn't remember what I was talking about which you know, I don't have any notes, my God 12 hours a day, I was like, you know, I was good enough to cover it up. I didn't tell my wife initially, it was so spooky was like what's happening here, I couldn't have dementia at this age. And then when I went through my shoulder issue, they did some blood tests. And they found out that I had mercury on a zero to five scale at 123. And so detoxing from it, I'm still dealing with it, I'm down to eight,
Peter Diamandis 37:13
but don't stay alive. Stay alive at that. And that number
Tony Robbins 37:17
one, I mean, literally, it's the highest they ever measured in the state of New York. And the reason is I ate fish and salad every day think you have to clean his fuel. I was having tuna and swordfish. But there's 75 year old fish that eat the younger fish absorb all of their mercury. And DNA wise, I don't methylate well, so the combination, it literally burned a hole in my esophagus, I lost a third of my blood supply was rushed to the hospital. So about one out of every three people give it a cheap little test and find out if you got one out of three, at least that my friends family, people have said of aluminum, or they have led or they have cadmium, or they have mercury now if you can catch it early on, like when I did, it's so easy to deal with. And I'll say another one immediate change in your life hormones. Most women are more familiar with hormones from the standpoint of hormone replacement therapy, because of menopause. But by time you're replacing something you're already through the floor. And what modern science shows is optimization with small changes earlier, immediate change in the quality of life. So we had a guy come to one of our fat life centers. You know, he's totally exhausted, he doesn't understand why can't lose weight works out hard. 36 pounds overweight goes on and on. But there's problems. So how do you hormones? Look? Oh, I've already had that looked at well show us the test? Or do you want to do a fresh one, we do a fresh test? What do we find out? It's hormones? I think they were to 25? Well, most doctors don't tell you to replace that you're in trouble till about 151 75. But don't feel like a man less than seven to 900. And so small change in him. And three months later, he's lost the pounds. He feels 10 years younger. So these are little interviews.
James Altucher 38:48
What did he do? What did he do to bathroom
Tony Robbins 38:51
it was it was minor chunks of desktop not a big chunk for him to be able to add to a system because it had dropped off. And by the way that's happening in many younger and younger today. I think primarily doctors think because the chemicals in the environment. So these little changes can change everything. And then there's the things like the X like are you worried about cancer? Well, that got check out broccoli sprouts, there's almost 1000 studies now on broccoli sprouts showing how it reduced the risk of cancer. And studies show it reduces breast cancer cells by 80%. I mean, it costs you nothing. And you can do something right away that makes this happen. So we really try to combine with let's find out where you are. Let's figure the least invasive thing you can possibly do. What are the same things you do that can change your life? I mean, I'll tell you another simple one is just ridiculous, is you know I do cold punches every morning. It's what I do. It's a part of my ritual. But you know, I've known about saunas and I've used on is variably. But I didn't know the level of research about saunas primarily because of Finland where everybody has one 2 million people. It's unbelievable. You know, if you go four times a week to sauna you go to the gym and do it or if you make an investment in your own but anyone go to the gym and do it You end up reducing your chance of a heart attack by 52%, you reduce your chance of a stroke by 57%, four times a week. So people that wouldn't exercise, they can just sit there for 20 minutes. And all of a sudden, and by the way, it normalizes your your blood sugar and helps to normalize blood pressure. I mean, the studies are mind boggling. It's such a simple intervention. So you don't have to go high tech. But we want people to have all the best choices. So you say, Hey, I'm, uh, you know, I want to take my body to the next level, then do this, I want to just do a couple simple things that are radically improved the color of my life, then pick from this group of a dozen things you'd like to try?
James Altucher 40:36
It seems like there's this spectrum, right? There's good lifestyle choices. There's diagnostics, and you discussed how diagnostics itself has drastically, you know, has had a revolution is exponentially growing, then there's kind of these simple tools, whether it's more testosterone or or hormones or, or these na d plus boosters like N mn. And I think that's a whole area where people don't know about those Metformin you discuss in the book. And then as you get further, there's technologies that are down the road, like these Yamanaka factors, or these things that are in phase two, or phase three trials. So let's say people are making the lifestyle choices, let's say their mate doing the diagnostics, what are simple to use, whether they're supplements or drugs, or whatever that people could use to have some of the effect that you're describing, whether it's stem cells,
Tony Robbins 41:26
let's say let's take something really simple 70% of this country is overweight or obese, it's insane. And part of it is to be fair to people, it's the food environment is change. I'm old enough to remember going to Coke was a glass this big, not a thing that was a big gulp that was more than three times the size of your stomach, right. But now there's some brand new tools the FDA just approved when it was called plenty, and it's made of cucumbers. And what it does is you eat it before you eat and it doesn't disturb the gut like previous drugs like this dead, just pure cucumbers. But the FDA shows its average weight loss doing this is 22 pounds. There's some more advanced ones. If you want to do something, it's a drug per se, that actually changes your blood sugar has the impact on your blood sugar as well. But they're like taking this little simple pill that fills your stomach up so you don't over eat you develop a new pattern is really, really huge is just one example. Peter, what would you share,
Peter Diamandis 42:20
by the way, plenty is incredible, right? It's you take three of these pills half an hour before you eat in your stomach, they expand 100 fold in size and they basically do a volumetric replacement. So you'll feel full so you eat less and then in the small intestine, it releases some, some additional hormones that, you know, reduce your hunger levels. You know, one of the most widespread drugs that's getting a lot of popularity is a drug it doesn't a prescription is Metformin. And you mentioned that James Metformin hat was developed about 60 years ago comes from the French lilac. It's literally pennies a pill. And what it does, I take about 1000 milligrams gram per day. And what it does is it reduces your blood sugar reduces basically that cancer fuel, and it has a whole slew of additional benefits that are thought to be you know, I would say anti aging or age protective. There's some huge studies Dr. Neeraj Li is taking on a 10,000 person study right now on on this. There's others you know, I don't do growth hormone, Tony did it naturally from from his own.
James Altucher 43:33
Very funny. He's nine feet tall. So yeah. But
Peter Diamandis 43:37
you know, there is a lot of evidence today that you can, you can get benefits, it's really about getting the body back into homeostasis. Right? Our bodies, we evolved as humans on the savannahs of Africa hundreds of 1000s of years ago. And on the average, we would go into puberty at age 12. And we'd have a baby at age 13. That's just the way it was no birth control back then. And then by the time you were 2627 28, your baby was having a baby. And before you know there was abundant food from Whole Foods and McDonald's. If you wanted to perpetuate the species, the last thing you would do is steal food from your grandchildren's mouths. And so the average lifespan for most of human history was late 20s, early 30s. And so after that point, there was no selective pressure to bring us back into homeostasis. And so we are not homeostasis, our hormone levels drop our growth hormone levels drop all of this and a lot of what age management medicine is today is getting you back to the state of your blood levels when you're in your 20s and 30s. And it's optimizing your hormone levels optimizing the your blood sugar levels. So there's a lot there's, you know, probably about 30 supplements that I take right now we talked about many Have them in the book. And these are all it's the early days. But you know, the goal here is to live long enough to, to get to what Ray Kurzweil and George Church called longevity escape velocity. Let me just mention that real quick, because it's a fun subject for our viewers here. Turns out that for every year that you're alive today, science on the average is adding about a quarter of a year of life. So over the course of you know, four years, you're going to gain a year, there's a point predicted that science for every year that you're alive is going to extend your life for more than a year as the you know, as AI and material sciences and genomic sciences are continuing to progress. So Ray Kurzweil, who wrote the introduction for our book, he's brilliant. He's one of my mentors, he's really considered one of the greatest thinkers in the field of exponential tech and longevity, as written about longevity escape velocity, and his prediction is that we're gonna see longevity escape velocity in about 12 years. Now, I thought maybe he was an optimist. And so I went to another extraordinary genome assist. This is George Church at Harvard. He's a colleague of David Sinclair's, and I said, you know, George, when do you think we're gonna hit longevity escape velocity? And he said, probably within the next 15 years, and that just blew my mind. Because when you have that kind of, you know, cooperation, that's for me meaningful. And so what does that mean? It means that if we're going to have these additional breakthroughs, that are able to continuously extend your life, if you if you love life, if you love, you know, you know, adding decades to your life, your goal is to live long enough to intercept those technologies.
James Altucher 46:49
Well, and it seems like with some of the things you talk about, that are readily available, it's almost possible like the the N mn, and the stem cells. Like if there was a magic bullet, why aren't stem cells just use for everything. So
Peter Diamandis 47:02
we have a regulatory process, and it is slow. And right now, in the early days of stem cells, they used Fetal stem cells from aborted fetuses, and it had disastrous results. And since then, that's been illegal. It is illegal in all countries, but stem cells coming from either the placenta itself, or the umbilical cord had been used over and over again with incredible results. There's never been the studies done to wrap the science around it. So I mentioned our third partner here, Dr. Bob Hariri, who is chairman and CEO of cellularity. So cellularity, has been collecting placentas for decades, and from each placenta is able to effectively extract the stem cells, the placental, natural killer cells and T cells, these immune cells can be used to fight cancers. We can talk about that if you want. But it is just now beginning the work to do is filed what's called an investigational new drug ind application to look at using these stem cells for getting rid of age related frailty to increase muscle to get rid of sarcopenia. And this is the goal to supplement our stem cells because we have stem cell exhaustion. You know, that analogy that Tony spoke about, about this mansion and having all these repair people who are repairing the mansion, that's what stem cells do, stem cells are in every compartment of the body, and during the normal course of life, into your 20s and 30s and early 30s. They're repairing your muscle, your bone, your brain, your lungs, everything. At that point, you see a very rapid decline in your stem cell population, I mean 100 fold not to fold 100 fold to 1000 fold. And so this is called stem cell exhaustion and the concept and the work is going on now. It's you have to go outside the US to get it today because it doesn't have FDA approval, hopefully it will, the next five plus years is to supplement those stem cells in your body to uplift your pairing systems in your body. So it's gonna come and the science is gonna back it up and the FDA is gonna back it up, but you have to get there.
James Altucher 49:20
And then there are things like you mentioned, you know, Yamanaka factors, which are, again, a magic bullet for anti aging,
Peter Diamandis 49:26
it seems like magic. So, one of the Yamanaka factors, Dr. Yamanaka from Japan received the Nobel Prize for identifying four genes for particular protein factors that when you give it to a skin cell or a liver cell or brain cell, it takes it back to a D differentiated form. So we begin with a stem cell and the stem cell has pluripotency can become any kind of cell in the body. And we always thought that once you become a mature differentiated cell that there was no way to go back, Dr. Yamanaka To prove that you can, you can go back down the evolutionary tree to a pluripotent stem cell. If your skin cell and then you can become a nerve cell or a liver cell, what David Sinclair did and was published on the cover of nature in December 2020. It was an extraordinary It's a landmark paper duck and George Church was part of that was to demonstrate that an aging mice that had lost their vision, that if you gave that mouse in the retinal system, three of the four Yamanaka factors, you can bring the optic system have that mouse back in time, you can make it younger, biologically younger, measurably biologically younger, and that mice regain their sight. Tony, when anything on that one,
Tony Robbins 50:49
I just mentioned that, you know, they had glaucoma, so the nerves are gone. So you don't regrow nerves in the eyes. So they literally just sent them back in time until they were literally back when those nerves were there and they could see. So it's pretty, pretty exciting. It's just it's the beginning of the beginning, we're, we're at the base of the curve that, you know, that happens in technology. And you know, you deal with the FDA, and they're doing their job as best they can. But you know, most, you know, types of vaccines would take, what, five years, eight years, you know, this, they got a push with COVID were pushed up massively, but it does the system takes time. But there's so many things that are creating breakthroughs right now. And and you mentioned, I want to mention one thing, because you brought it up, which is one of the big scary ones for people is Alzheimer's. Right? And you know, with Alzheimer's, there's so much research. I mean, maybe Peter wants to share with you about the title ones that jumped out to me, there's two things that jumped out. You know, most people know that there's newer inflammation right there challenges going on here. But the fear is, and the belief is, well, once somebody has their certain place, they've lost all their memories, my father died of Alzheimer's, you know, I was, you know, where he wasn't into anything. And it's scary, because it just takes away your sense of identity, everything. But what's interesting is we searchers, who are funded by Google have come up with this is our IB experimental drug, and at least in animals, and with mice, specifically, they've shown that the neuro inflammation is just blocking the communication and the memories are still there. And after they apply the drug, they remember they can go through, for example, you know, commitment where they have to go through something they memorized before and they can't remember it. And suddenly, they remember every detail and can run through it in two minutes. I'm not going to amaze. So It's extraordinary to see what can happen. And the other thing is, there's some new technology just to stimulate the brain like a muscle. It's been used with people in their 70s or just having the beginnings of dementia. It's called neuro racer. And what it does is it within 14 sessions, they can take a seven year old person who's beginning to get dementia and get them to be able to multitask as well as a 20 year old who's untrained. So these things are happening as we speak.
James Altucher 52:54
What do you guys use for cognitive capacity right now?
Peter Diamandis 53:00
My 10 year old my 10 year old boys it's learning new things is the first and foremost getting the brain active in terms of I'm I'm reading, consuming writing, you know, eight hours a day.
Tony Robbins 53:17
It's exercise in my case, I because I had the problems that I did where I was losing my memory. Hyperbaric Oxygen has miraculous results and they're documented. So I do hyperbaric oxygen, I do cryotherapy, so anything is taking down inflammation on top of exercise which stimulates the blood flow on top of stimulating brain by learning. Those are three of the biggest factors. But you might want to before we run out of time, Peter because I know our next one's coming up quicker. You might want to tell them a little bit about our doctor friend tansy and what he's doing he's, he's the most optimistic person about this. You should really know about him, James. Well,
Peter Diamandis 53:51
it's Dr. Rudy tansy out of Harvard. I run a longevity trip every year and I bring my top players my top abundance members together we go, we visit the top 50 scientists and he was voted the number one scientist hands down in terms of presentation. Why? Because he gave the most extraordinary optimistic, you know, vision of Alzheimer's out there, meaning it's going to be crushed. And in the book, we talk about the details of five or six different strategies and medical approaches that that Dr. tansy is taking on, I do want to share one because Tony, you mentioned vaccines. There's a company that Tony and I are both involved with full disclosure callback sanity. And what we've found is the ability to actually use vaccines to target proteins in the body to stop them cold. So amyloid that is thought to cause caused Alzheimer's. I'm gonna forget the name Alzheimer's right. Is is basically targeted by one of the vaccines and so the idea is you can vaccinate against Alzheimer's, you can vaccinate people against Parkinson's disease you can vaccinate people against stroke and heart disease by going after a liver enzyme called PCS canine. And the idea that you can start to take the body back to homeostasis back to normalcy by using your immune system as sort of a an app that you play is extraordinary. So, I mean, there's a lot of hope I cannot not cover Organogenesis so one of the gods please bring that up. That's great. Yeah. What are the things we talked about in the book James, that is blow your mind technology today is that you know, where there are a number of approaches three or four for creating an abundant source of Oregon's. So there are two incredible individuals, Martine Rothblatt, a dear friend of Tony and mine, I've known Martine for 40 years. She's the founder of XM radio and Sirius Radio. She her daughter was dying from pulmonary fibrosis. And Martine quit her job, took the money she had, she had earned and set out to cure her daughter's disease. And to long story, she found a particular drug, she pried it out of the hands of the the pharma company developed it and that drug actually was able to forestall the ravages of pulmonary fibrosis, and Genesis, her daughter is alive today after having just been given two or three years to live. This is now 20 years ago. At the end of the day, that was not enough for Martine she said, Okay, this is going to keep her lungs from developing fibrosis, but we need to develop new lungs. And so she's taken three different approaches 3d printing, reviving lungs that had been discarded because they're they're not right for transplantation. But most interestingly enough, she joined with Craig Venter. And they took pigs and turns out that pigs have the same size organs, liver, lung, kidneys, hearts as humans do. And they edited the genome of the pigs to make the surface antigens human like they humanize the pigs, and they got rid a bunch of retroviruses in there. And they got it to a point this is her company United Therapeutics to the point where they could begin transplanting these pig organs into humans. Right. So you're not waiting for someone to die in a motorcycle accident. It's amazing. Yeah, it is amazing.
Tony Robbins 57:36
And by the way, you might say James, oh, when's that gonna happen? And that's what we said to her. And she said, Tony, I'm telling you, it'll happen. The first ones will probably happen around the first time you publish your book. And two weeks ago, for the first time, a human being had a heart transplant of a pig heart. And we did 1% of all guinea pigs are slaughtered for bacon, we could provide everything as needed. No one would be 100,000 people on a waiting list and save lives. So that's just the beginning. But the other thing is Dr. Anthony Atala at Wake Forest University has been doing this for the Department of Defense. He has had bladders for 12 years. And he 3d prints them off your own stem cells. And there's now that's the new move that we're looking at happening over the next few years. And you might mention army just for a second. And the timeline for pediatric hearts.
Peter Diamandis 58:25
Yeah, so Dean came in. I don't know James, you know, Dean came in Yeah, for segue of segue, I hate that he's only known for that. He's one of those brilliant scientists on the planet engineers, 100 1500 patents. He was given a grant to build something called the Advanced regenerative Manufacturing Institute, and he's built it. I've got 150 collaborators as part of it. And their mission is to build the manufacturing capability to manufacture an infinite supply of organs. So they built a device in one end of the device goes pluripotent stem cells, one of those Yamanaka, factors taking a skin cell back to a stem cell, that pluripotent stem cell is expanded, and then differentiated. And then it's used to build an organ. So what they've done so far is bone ligament bone segments, which are good for knee and ankle surgeries. What they're working on today. With Doris Taylor, the leading scientists in this area is manufacturing pediatric hearts. Right. So in one end goes to pluripotent stem cells. Three months later, there are about outcomes, a functioning beating heart that can be transplanted to the to a child that needs it, because otherwise we're going to get it from and after that kidneys and lungs and livers and everything else. I mean,
Tony Robbins 59:48
and when we asked them, we asked him, when's this gonna be available? Tony said, Peter, yeah, it's gonna be next year 2323 24 The next two years.
James Altucher 59:56
So here's what you guys have to do and I know you have to get going. But here's the You have to do first create a website where I could go to that website. It's a one stop shopping and I could buy everything that you recommend. Because you said like, there's 80 People who make this mmm for instance, and a lot of them are no good. So make an E commerce site. Yeah,
Tony Robbins 1:00:15
we have one. We have one. But we don't just send people there because we want them to be able to chase choices themselves. But if you go to lifeforce calm, there's two companies there. There's about the book. And then there's a section on my lifeforce, which is for peptides and hormones. And then there's fountain life, if you want the diagnostics. And if you don't live near one of our centers, there's an app. And even your doctor can order for example, like the CCTA scan to make sure you know what art is, and so forth. So we do it up to places, but we're not here to promote that sort of book, if they're interested. We want people to make their own choices. But of course, we wanted it for ourselves. So yeah, make sure we have access right
James Altucher 1:00:49
now. Well, thanks so much for writing this book. And for coming on the podcast, I'm going to do everything you recommend. But I'm also waiting for all these great things. Maybe Maybe also, another thing is there should be like a cheat sheet like a timeline of when you expect everything to happen. And finally, a third thing is, if you invest in all these things, some of these companies are public, give us a list of all the companies that actually did something,
Tony Robbins 1:01:17
there's 195 companies in the book, and we and we acknowledge that there's 38, I've invested in I think 32 That Peters invested in many of them are still private companies, but we don't do it for investment, just make it clear that we are invested in those companies. But there's so many of them, we just put our money where our mouth is. And we found things that blew our mind, like the internet. And I told you about for example. So but all that's coming, it'll be here quick enough. But there's so much to do right now. That's what I want people to get the book. And if they get it, they can change your own life, they can also do it for somebody they love, that's what I wrote it for is my mindset was, I get a call at least once every 10 days to two weeks, and he's got heart disease, somebody's about to attack, somebody got Alzheimer's, somebody got a stroke. And now I can just say, Here's exactly where to go here, the best people in the world, and they know what to do. And they can do it right now. And so you can look at this book as a guide book for for the next five years of your life to say anybody that needs something, you're gonna have answers for them. And meanwhile, we're feeding 20 million people and supporting all this research and not doing anything from it. So this is a win win a virtuous cycle for people's lives.
Peter Diamandis 1:02:14
And it's about giving people hope that there is an opportunity to see their grandchildren, their great grandchildren and to live a life of energy and vitality. Because that's what's gonna allow people to want to live you know, longer life that they've got that energy if they've got the aesthetics, the mobility, the cognition, for the for the decades ahead, and it's coming, the tech is here, and it's coming faster. It's exponential in every every shape and form.
James Altucher 1:02:42
Well, thank you guys for coming on the podcast for talking about the book for for I'm gonna go to the website, too. I know you're not promoting it, but I want to start buying everything I need, I need my brain capacity to increase so I'm gonna be looking for that as well. Thanks so much. And once again for to both of you good luck and congratulations on this book. Thanks, James. Thanks. I'll talk to you soon. Take care buddy.